Can You Be Moral Without God? | Theological with Shabbos Kestenbaum
What happens when someone who was on their way to becoming a Catholic priest walks away from God entirely?
In this episode of Theological, host Shabbos Kestenbaum sits down with Cade Bradley — a self-proclaimed atheist, former devout Catholic, and one-time aspiring seminary student — for one of the most honest, nuanced, and thought-provoking conversations the show has ever had.
Cade didn’t drift away from faith casually. He read the Summa Theologica. He attended a Catholic film college to evangelize the world. He was preparing to enter a cloistered monastery. And then, at age 20, he asked himself one question: does the strength of my belief match the strength of the evidence?
His answer changed everything.
In this episode, Shabbos and Cade explore:
• Why Cade went from the seminary to atheism and what actually triggered it
• Whether you can be a moral person without God
• The philosophical arguments for God’s existence and why Cade finds them unconvincing
• The resurrection, the Exodus, and what evidence would actually change his mind
• Why Cade thinks atheism isn’t a worldview it’s just a starting point
• The surprising thing religion and atheism have in common
• What happens when we die and how an atheist makes peace with it
He left the church. He left the seminary. He left God behind. But is that story really over?




